tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213300.post112795642993803541..comments2023-09-20T06:53:25.708-07:00Comments on Poems From God: Why the PCUSA is in troublePresbyPoethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15455313892845393736noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213300.post-1128102043572032212005-09-30T10:40:00.000-07:002005-09-30T10:40:00.000-07:00You have a good perspective on this.I have discove...You have a good perspective on this.<BR/><BR/>I have discovered there are many in the church working to reform.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213300.post-1128069760606425952005-09-30T01:42:00.000-07:002005-09-30T01:42:00.000-07:00Not strange at all. We keep forgetting obedience i...Not strange at all. We keep forgetting obedience is what God is after. So our ideas of what is important are warped. <BR/><BR/>We miss the part of Jesus instructions to Peter. "If you love Me..." That isn't a distant God loves me, so I should love Him, but this incredible knowing, hearing, passionate, mindblowing relationship. Christians shouldn't need drugs, people should figure we are weird just on God/Jesus/Holy Spirit.<BR/><BR/>I've been working on reform. What I need to do is to reach out and truly work with others. God is not mocked. He hasn't left. He does seem to be willing to give us as much rope as we need. There still is an incredible faithful remnant here in the PCUSA, in bondage in Egypt. <BR/><BR/>The easy path is to just find a "faithful church". I don't think that is the right path. There is so much to like about the structure of the PCUSA. People keep saying denominations are dead. You need to organize, you need to work with others, it isn't easy. It means you have to learn to work with imperfect people that require massive doses of forgiveness. <BR/>If we just did what our BOO said.<BR/>If we just lived what we say are our book of confessions.<BR/>Have you ever read the PCUSA Book of Order and Book of confessions?<BR/><BR/>If we acted like we really believed in the priesthood of all believers, but hasn't that always been the problem. Talk is cheap. "If you love Me..."<BR/><BR/>The leaders are always getting weird aren't they. That's the problem of God trying to use defective materials. Cracked and broken. Look who he sends Elijah to. A widow, with only enough flour and oil for one cake, and God expects her to provide for them all.<BR/> <BR/>God always seems to enjoy working with broken pottery. My name for the bible is: "The story of people who heard from God, and said 'You want me to do WHAT." The story continues. Ordinary people doing/living stories even stranger than any written in the Bible.PresbyPoethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15455313892845393736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8213300.post-1127961845097795862005-09-28T19:44:00.000-07:002005-09-28T19:44:00.000-07:00You sum this up very well.Personally I think if we...You sum this up very well.<BR/><BR/>Personally I think if we were to effectively prevent the use of the church for political causes -- so that the money and presumed numbers wouldn't benefit those causes, we'd go a long way toward solving a number of our problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com